As regards TODAY

IHTRD, I am too shocked, I need time to digest this, I will be back again.

IHTRD, this proves noth­ing, there is no secret the first part of the BOA is a love story. The only thing you have really demon­strated is in your ver­sion it is writ­ten in the 1st per­son, while in the BOA, the chron­i­cler clearly iden­ti­fies him­self as the narrator.

Another thing if you say dark­ness never existed and no one has ever seen him. How do you explain the exis­tence of the mtb team who gather every sat­ur­day in BT? And in Expo on every tues­day night? How abt the box­ing and climb­ing club? How also do you explain the numer­ous occa­sions when other broth­ers have seen him in dif­fer­ent parts of sin­ga­pore? and how do you explain the emer­gency response team orga­nized by the broth­er­hood dur­ing the last tsunami, r you telling me we all dreamnt it up, bc that is not going to cut with me, the broth­er­hood was there.

I dont know where you are com­ing from or what you point is. It seems to be very frag­mented and con­fused to me.

Besides we were all there dur­ing the Pil­lium age and many of us actu­ally saw him in the real world, so again, how do you explain that.

I know some peo­ple say the father of the under­ground game may have sold out, but if that is the case, so what? Dark­ness never ever pre­sented him­self as an angel, he may or may not have had a busi­ness ori­en­tated plan when he started the broth­er­hood, but so what. If he sold out and he man­aged to good ROI, I say good for him.

As for your asser­tion he was not a mil­i­tary scholar, sci­en­tist and was became unem­ployed bc of some scan­dal, where did you get all that from? I draw the line when you start cast­ing neg­a­tive asper­sions on the char­ac­ter of oth­ers, unless you have evi­dence, you should keep your thoughts to yourself.

IHTRD, what is your point? If you are say­ing dark­ness once wrote and sold an online story, it doesn’t sur­prise me one bit at all.

I am still try­ing to fig­ure out what really is your bone of con­tention? Care to explain?

Dark­ness devel­oped a seri­ous RPG, as some­one rightly com­mented this is not halo, war­craft or everquest, if you want to go and play “I shoot you and you shoot me” games, then go ahead.

The median age of the broth­er­hood is 34.4 for your infor­ma­tion, hardly kids stuff we don’t much care for glossy graph­ics, it is pri­mar­ily a RPG based along the dun­geons & drag­ons for­mat, where peo­ple have to spend at least a year study­ing the man­ual before they can be con­sid­ered seri­ous gamers.

Yes there are com­plex plots within the game, but tell me what seri­ous RPG doesn’t? Care to explain?

The rea­son why peo­ple con­tinue to play this under­ground game is because it is inter­est­ing. Like any game which requires cere­bral fit­ness noth­ing is ever what it seems , tell me what RPG tells you all the solu­tions? You will find none, because they wouldn’t be called RPG if they resem­bled pokemon.

As for the broth­er­hood part, I agree it is all very much in the spirit of fun, of course most of us don’t believe in the exis­tence of a secret broth­er­hood, but it adds to the mys­tic and mys­tery factor.

Besides I always find it makes my day when­ever I chance across a brother in the MRT or in Raf­fles Place, bc we always have plenty to chat about. Like trekkies or star wars fans, we are really not so dif­fer­ent from them. You may laugh at us because occa­sion­ally some brother goes too far and decides to build a model of a Heigh­liner in his back yard and decides to live in it, but every genre has it’s cadre of diehards.

Again I ask what seri­ous RPG doesn’t encour­age the for­ma­tion of a fra­ter­nity, club or asso­ci­a­tion? Care to answer? Even peo­ple who play scrab­ble in Sin­ga­pore have the scrab­ble asso­ci­a­tion, so why should our game be any dif­fer­ent? Care to explain?

One word to describe the broth­er­hood: 白… *fill in the blank*

But for the sake of free press and speech, you have my salutation.

broth­ers, I am a lover not a fighter, so pls stop flam­ing me. My point is sim­ply this has any­one actu­ally see him, yes I know there is a bike, climb­ing, cycling team and there was even a tsunami team com­pris­ing of the fittest broth­ers aka the repub­li­can guard aka Shadarine Preatorian.

How­ever, was any­one see him. It is always, he was here or he just left or he will come soon, but really has any­one really seen him?

I saw the tsunami pho­tos of the broth­ers in Indone­sia, I was per­son­ally very proud, the broth­er­hood was there, all of you looked very macho, brave and all that with all those fancy equip­ment and para­mil­i­tary gear, but where was brother darkness?

I am not for one moment sug­gest­ing he doesnt exist. I remind myself over 3.7 mil­lion amer­i­cans believe they have been abducted by aliens and over 300,000 ppl have actu­ally seen Elvis, but let us get real when was the last time any of us saw the father of the game?

Just my POV

Long live the brotherhood!

I am not here to insult brother dark­ness. I just dont think he ever existed.

For exam­ple every­one who claims to have seen him always men­tions he is car­ry­ing a cheap plas­tic brief­case. rite?

Some broth­ers have even spec­u­lated this brief­case is lined with tita­nium and con­tains the secret blue­prints of the time par­al­lax machine the father of the game sin­gle hand­edly invented, rite?

It was so valu­able he car­ried it every­where and even sleep with it hand­cuffed, rite?

There have been over 700 recorded sight­ings of the father of the game in Sin­ga­pore based on my research and on prac­ti­cally every occa­sion he is seen car­ry­ing a briefcase.

Where did this myth come from? Cer­tainly not from the BOA bc it never ever men­tions him car­ry­ing a bag.

How­ever in the extended ver­sion of the love story, he even writes in detail about the bag he car­ries, coin­ci­den­tal huh!

So what I am say­ing is many of the early broth­ers who played the game read this extended ver­sion and must have recounted the same story to other broth­ers who came into the game latter.

The story got told a few times and even­tu­ally it sim­ply became accepted as a fact, the great sci­en­tist and his cheap plas­tic briefcase.

I have the orig­i­nal ver­sion of the story and I can prove it! So stop flam­ing me, I have a right to my POV!

IHTRD, today you come across clearer. I see your point. I am just inter­ested to know what is your motivation?

I have per­son­ally never ever seen bro dark­ness bfr, not even once.

From the many accounts this is the impres­sion our crew has of the father of the game.

(1) He is lean.
(2) Crew cut.
(3) car­ries a plas­tic black brief­case.
(4) always takes the mrt & bus.
(5) smokes mal­boro cigs.
(6) drinks only guin­ness stout
(7) has a deep scar just above his right eye.
(8) has very intense eyes.
(9) served as an offi­cer in the elite “red beret” in NS.
(10) defense sci­en­tist. some say he is fail­ure, oth­ers say oth­er­wise.
(11) not the talk­a­tive sort, moody, sullen and con­tem­pla­tive, comes across as a thinker but with a hint of sad­ness.
(12)extreme sports­man.
(13)all agree he is the father of the rpg.
(14) 70% say he is a malaysian, 20% sin­ga­porean, 10% ABC

If any­thing else springs to mind, I shall post it here. Many thanks and I hope this comes in use­ful in your analy­sis. You know me btw.

brother Ihtrd,

spo­ken to my crew as well, we are tech­nocrats in the strange­lands serv­ing under the 30th.

all agree on all the points pre­sented by min­is­ter. will add the following:

a. bond breaker, he ran away as a mil­i­tary scholar
b. ladies man (pos­si­bly)
c. gave us all the impres­sion he was a man with a past, though none of us can elab­o­rate.
d. pos­si­bly an orphan, bc he never ever men­tioned his father or mother, but he cer­tainly had a brother who he loved very much (per­haps even a young twin????)
e. dur­ing his ns, he was one of the few ns men who actu­ally saw real com­bat in cam­bo­dia. He described it as a “secret war”. He was injured and highly dec­o­rated, but the expe­ri­ence dam­aged his trust and faith in the army, bc he real­ized he was expand­able, he won­dered per­haps whether it was bc of his cit­i­zen­ship and the fact he was an orphan, he never for­gave either the army or the repub­lic. Threw his medals into Pierce reser­voir (at least 20 accounts of this story, but they dif­fer in accounts)

Another thing, none of us can agree on how tall he is, some say 5.7 oth­ers 6.5. I find the gap quite star­tling per­haps you have some­thing here.

We are will­ing to coop­er­ate with you only bc we like to believe your inten­tions are noble, if they are in any way dis­hon­or­able in so far as this is an attempt to smear the name of brother dark­ness, we dont want to be part of it.

The 30th is the largest cosca in the strange­lands, we will pass on your mes­sage to the other coscas.

Long live the brotherhood

we will help you IHTRDB, like the 30th we hope your inten­tions are noble. We are a fra­ter­nity gov­erned by laws, we all respect brother dark­ness and sin­cerely hope this is not an attempt to smear his name.

If all you wish is to con­duct an inves­ti­ga­tion under the laws of omerta every brother has the right of “audi alteram partem”.

As the leader of my cosca, I will invoke your priv­i­lege and we shall endeavor to assist you the best we can.

Thks for post­ing the extended ver­sion we really appre­ci­ated it.

IHTRDB, I have sub­mit­ted yr peti­tion to the coun­cil. As the leader of sada­herin, this is my privilege.

The coun­cil in primus has informed me, they will assem­ble a quarom to hear your peti­tion on the next sit­ting of the coun­cil meet.

The pro­ceed­ings will be broad­cast via utube in the real world at primus time 98877 actual earth time 29–7-06 @ 1600 GMT

You have been ordered by under the code of sad­har to be there, an escort will arrange your transport.

Please beam us your mem­ber­ship code to make the nec­es­sary arrangements.

Under the prin­ci­ple of audi alteram partem, every brother has a right to peti­tion his case before the council.

we hope this is will end your spec­u­la­tion once and for all and we do not take kindly to you using this site to post your greivances.

Long live the brotherhood!

Time is not on my side gen­tle­men, this thread will come to an end soon, but let me leave you all with this.

Many of the obser­va­tions noted by min­is­ter and sada­herin are men­tioned in the orig­i­nal love story (extended ver­sion). This has led me to con­clude in this last two years much of who or what the per­son called dark­ness was or is, is fictional.

I believe many of us have con­fused the father of the rpg with the fic­tional char­ac­ter. I don’t know pre­cisely how this has hap­pened or whether the ppl who owned the game planned it this way, but I am con­vinced it has happened.

I have attached a sec­tion of chap 39 of the love story (EV) to just prove a few sim­ple points, in it I want you all to note, 3 observations.

1. The main pro­tag­o­nist men­tions, his life long ambi­tion is to aspire to be
sci­en­tist and one day work for NASA. We all know the father of the game
was once a failed sci­en­tist who har­bored dreams of work­ing on rockets.

2. How the father of the rpg came to known as the man we all call
“darkness”

3. How we all know him as the man who always car­ries a briefcase.

In this excerpt, the main pro­tag­o­nist is fan­ta­siz­ing about lead­ing a nor­mal life with the third wife (the wife of a gang­land boss who he serves to finance his under grad­u­ate stud­ies in London).

He wants to take her away from the world of crime that he has sud­denly found him­self trapped in, but laments at his inabil­ity to do so. In short the chips are stacked against him. Even if he man­ages to elope with her, he real­izes they will be hunted down and killed so he searches for a way.

At this point in the story (this sec­tion is too long so I have not posted it), we are told, he has become the man who car­ries the brief­case for the four houses he serves in the name of the old man. His pri­mary respon­si­bil­ity involves col­lect­ing pro­ceeds from the triad syn­di­cates oper­at­ing in China town. He is so to speak the bag man.

Our hero rises fast in the gang­land world, bc many see him as an edu­cated man, when the story opens, he is in his bed­sit where he begins his lamentations.

I thank you all for lend­ing me your ears.

My name is “steam­boy”, I am a 3nd stage sci­ence offi­cer with the rank of Lt Col com­mad­ing the space sta­tion “Dim­itri” in the Altin­nien Sys­tem des:925949–002– HUANG.

Long live the brotherhood!

That evening on my way back from lec­tures, it sur­prised even me when I started feel­ing sad for the third wife. Sad­ness till then, had only been a dis­tant island, it was like one of those pic­ture post­cards of some far­away beach in the Caribbean – though I have heard of it and prob­a­bly seen or read about it count­less times, it never really had the effect of per­me­at­ing my heart which resem­bled a piece of indus­trial grade metal – my heart after all was not even my own they belonged to the mon­sters who I served – I for one did not own enough of myself to even con­sider my own heart my own prop­erty –I had stepped into a world where men such as myself could never afford to be even them­selves – we are the damned!

So why did I sud­denly find myself feel­ing sad for the third wife? Why did I even dream of a life with her? – had I con­ve­niently for­got­ten, I have sold my soul to the devil by serv­ing the tri­ads as the man who car­ries the brief­case for the four houses of Yu, Wong, Lim and Gan. They are my mas­ters, I am sim­ply their ser­vant and as for her, she might as well be in dis­tant star a mil­lion light years away.

In this fan­tasy world, I imag­ined get­ting a nor­mal job as an engi­neer liv­ing per­haps some­where in Amer­ica, where I would even be con­tent to drive a sec­ond hand clap up car – we would save like nor­mal peo­ple for fridges, tele­vi­sion sets, sofa’s, din­ning tables and those sort of things – from time to time, when there was enough to spare, I would buy her a drop of gold and this would bring a smile to her. Later on when my bosses saw, I was a man who could be entrusted to do big­ger things (because I rea­soned surely this world and the gang­ster world can­not be so dif­fer­ent – there will always be a place for seri­ous men like me, who could always be depended to see things through) – and when we had saved up enough to buy our own house, com­plete with a yard and a veran­dah – I would prob­a­bly have more time and even pick up a respectable hobby like pho­tog­ra­phy – per­haps even pur­sue a master’s and even­tu­ally a doc­toral degree – per­haps even ful­fill my dream and work as a sci­en­tist for NASA – and while I stud­ied through the night – she would con­tent her­self with read­ing or watch­ing her favorite soap opera – occa­sion­ally, she would make me a cup of cocoa and we would sim­ply sit down, talk and laugh the way ordi­nary decent folk turned the great wheel of life, page by page, chap­ter by chap­ter till this book of life would close quite happily.

Like the lies I told myself from time to time –mine dis­solved when­ever, I saw men in dark expen­sive suits like myself appear­ing over the hori­zon with machine guns in this dream life – the world is round and no mat­ter how one runs, one can never really run from men like myself – they could always be counted to square the accounts – this is the way when a man joins the triads.

I can­not tell you when I started to plan for a life with the third wife – all I can say is it started very much in the way a pris­oner, inno­cently shifts his bed closer to the wall one day only to find chips crack­ing from a wall, he once regarded as unbreak­able – only for this man to dig more and more till finally escap­ing through a tunnel.

That night I cut my hand to in an attempt to wake myself up from my illu­sions, I reck­oned the pain would jolt me out, in the way a ham­mer shat­ters a china bowl, but I felt nei­ther pain nor dis­tress – instead the only thing that flowed from this wound was a dark fluid – as I stood there naked in the moon­light I real­ized I had become a part of dark­ness and it had become part me – as long as I remain apart from my her, my light – I would always be one with dark­ness – I have become darkness!

PS

I have encrypted this using the facil­ity at the “dim­itri” so that the other broth­ers can access it in the real world, even if it has been deleted. A shadow copy will always remain in the server, access key:161265

Thanks very much ihtrdb. We will be inputting new access key code 161265 a per your advise.

Tell me are we still using the old or new trans­mis­sion codes for secure post­ings? Pls advice as we are unable to pratic­i­pate in your thread to dis­cuss brother darkness.

Look­ing for­ward to KOHO guid­ing us in line.

Long live the brotherhood!

no one joins the red beret just to have a good time. Most of them were highly moti­vated and ide­al­is­tic young men who were pre­pared to make the ulti­mate sacrifice.

I always tell myself this when­ever I feel the urge to judge bro darkness.

I can­not even imag­ine the hell this guy went through, it must have been an unimag­in­able hell.

I dont blame him for becom­ing cyn­i­cal and sus­pi­cious of author­ity dur­ing the lat­ter part of his life.

Nei­ther do I blame him for throw­ing his medals away. Every man has a limit and he just crossed the line.

If I had been in the same sit­u­a­tion, I would prob­a­bly have done the same thing.

ihtrdb what­ever you may say abt the father of the game, I per­son­ally believe he existed in blood and flesh. I have never seen him, but I can­not imag­ine all this was put together by sim­ply a imag­i­nary man who never ever lived.
I just cannot.

How­ever, in since some­one here as invoked “audi alteram partem” and it has been sec­onded, let us just say my cosca agree to dis­agree with you.

Good effort.

brother dark­ness was not a angel, he never once rep­re­sented he was pure. He prob­a­bly smoked, dranked and even wom­an­ised, but I believe he was a true kin­dred spirit.

Sure he was opin­ion­ated, but tell me what leader doesnt take a posi­tion and even feel the need to defend it from time to time.

He may have been a failed engi­neer in the real world, but so what? A man is never judged by one point in his life and ulti­mately he made good, that is all that really mat­ters. If he did sell the game for 3 to 4 mil­lion, I am for one happy for him.

What really com­mands my respect was how he or oth­ers he worked with put the game together. It was brilliant.

Today there are hun­dreds of broth­ers through­out sin­ga­pore who still revere and respect this man.

I just have a feel­ing, he is still walk­ing around sin­ga­pore with his cheap plas­tic briefcase.

I just want to know did he finally ream the 3rd wife?

see your point IHTRD. Well spot­ted. Care to share with us other reveal­ing details in the xt ver­sion of the love story? Much appreciated.

btw I know you space sta­tion chaps han­dle the traf­fic con­trol, logis­tics, berthing etc. Dont want to sound lofty, but dont you chaps find it bor­ing? Care to explain how you gen­er­ate cred­its and what you find so inter­est­ing abt this role.

We will be pay­ing u chaps a visit some­time within the week, hope to RDV with the dim­itri then.

tally ho!

Thank you all for yr kind sup­port. I look for­ward to the moment when I can address the coun­cil directly.

Dear min­is­ter,

as you know there are only 4 space sta­tions in the strange­lands. The dim­itri is the largest of them all. I designed her. She has a dis­place­ment of over 4,000 met­ric tons and is fit­ted with the lat­est tech­no­log­i­cal innovations.

My cosca is not big, there are only 3 of us here, but not only are we in charge of the traf­fic con­trol, but we also con­trol the light jumps under­taken by heighliners.

We also pro­vide a stor­age facil­ity and refit­ment ser­vices, this is how we earn our credits.

It is not bor­ing, we find it very inter­est­ing infact. I used to play trains in the real world, this is a vari­a­tion which I enjoy very much, there is never a bor­ing moment in our job and we are all very happy here.

From the dim­itri, we wish you all god speed.

Brother steam­boy

dude those are awsome pics man

rock on

Ihtrdb, you have obvi­ous done a good job in your research and have cer­tainly raised some thought pro­vok­ing ques­tions con­cern­ing bro darkie.

Let us assume you are for one moment right, let us just say he did not actu­ally exist and was sim­ply a prod­uct man­u­fac­tured to appeal to the likes of us. What sort of man would he have been? The answer would be exactly the sort of man dark­ness was.

The rea­son why most of us can iden­tify with bro darkie is bc he wasn’t per­fect, he had a past and some say a tor­tured his­tory. He cer­tainly had a lot of psy­cho­log­i­cal scars. At the same time, he was rep­re­sented as a failed sci­en­tist and I won­der why those peo­ple who cre­ated him painted him that way. Per­haps they wanted to show us his fal­li­bil­ity? Or that he like us was sim­ply another Joe like all of us?

What I can­not fig­ure out is how the char­ac­ter huan guan in the xt ver­sion of the love story can sud­denly jump out and assume the role of a real per­son? It seems to me, at least the father or fathers of the game must have planned this whole thing in the begin­ning. They would have to post thou­sands of post in forums to make it look at if darkie was actu­ally a real per­son or spread thou­sands of rumors he was seen here and there.

In this regard I have some­thing to add, we are always told bro darkie was always seen in the mrt or stand­ing in a bus stand, that seems curi­ous to me, but ret­ro­spec­tively, it doesn’t any more, because these scenes sug­gest a man who is in tran­sit, so this may be why, no one has actu­ally had a heart to heart con­ver­sa­tion with him. In fact, I searched the entire BOA and on prac­ti­cally every occa­sion, he never once spoke for any extended period of time on any sub­ject, that to me is a curi­ous obser­va­tion, you wish to fol­low up on ihtrdb.

At the same time bro darkie was no ordi­nary bloke. I am sure many will agree the tech sec­tion of the book of ages is the best piece of sci-fi work ever done in Asia. It is so detailed that I always have this impres­sion, who­ever the per­son who started all this was must have really put his whole heart into it. So it is so unusual, that he prob­a­bly did the same for the char­ac­ter darkness.

I must say at this point, I really don’t know what to think any more. Life after all imi­tates art or is it the other way round.

moas may have been a great man, but it is impor­tant to sep­a­rate the man from his works. Some of you may think I have a gripe against him. I do. Firstly, I cite him for being a less than per­fect leader. Whether you like it or not, moas was a very charis­matic leader and his capac­ity to influ­ence and per­suade should never be under­es­ti­mated. While many of the older broth­ers may be in a bet­ter posi­tion to make informed deci­sions about whether to buy into his ideas or not, this may not be entirely true when it comes to our younger cadres, who may not have the expe­ri­en­tial knowl­edge. This high­lights the impor­tance of good and respon­si­ble mentoring.

Moas was a poor leader in the sense he smoked, drank and was even reck­less in the way he pur­sued his hob­bies and sports. In the BOA we are told, he climbs with­out ropes and booms down trails at break neck speeds. He is also a well known bond breaker who has no com­punc­tions to break his agree­ment and what about his views con­cern­ing our country?

Gen­tle­men, I want you all to con­sider one thing, are these the sort of val­ues we want to impart to the young. As I said, he was a very charis­matic leader and in pay­ing trib­ute to him blindly and fail­ing to sep­a­rate the man from the myth, him from his works, we do a great dis­ser­vice to those who look up to us for leadership.

The broth­er­hood is a fra­ter­nity of gen­tle­men who are first and fore­most hon­or­able, coura­geous and just. This is laid down squarely in the BOA in the form of the ormetaine code aka oath of omerta.

Was moas a good mentor?

Coun­cilor Volar­i­ane (who inci­den­tally is pre­tend­ing to be colombo b), we all know your his­tory. You were an offi­cer in ns, but as I recount you were a staff offi­cer who rarely ven­tured beyond your her­met­i­cally sealed air-conditioned bunker. So with due respect, you are hardly in a posi­tion to fathom what actu­ally hap­pened to brother dark­ness for him to have decided to do the things he did.

As for his smok­ing, drink­ing and predilec­tion for dan­ger­ous sports, I have you know sir, dark­ness was one of the most skil­ful expo­nents and like all sport men’s he was not the first to push the envelop and test his lim­its. Believe it or not, this is what true sports men do, they go against moun­tains and they die, they sail against the seven seas and drown, they do many things only for tragedy to find and hunt them down, but this does not in any dimin­ish their phi­los­o­phy for doing the things they do. How­ever, I can under­stand how you may not seem to real­ize this, since the only sports you indulge in is per­haps the occa­sional game of ping pong. So again you hardly have one ounce of cred­i­bil­ity to speak on this matter.

As for your clap trap of the omert­ian code, please do not sprin­kle fan­ci­ful metaphors and lex­i­cons to lend cre­dence to what you have already said. I do not know much about the affairs of the Coun­cil, but I can say with the great­est con­fi­dence most of the broth­er­hood have never ever con­sid­ered the actions of the Coun­cil as any­thing beyond exem­plary or even worth emu­lat­ing. In fact, I will have you know dear sir, the Coun­cil today has alien­ated it’self from the broth­er­hood to such an extent, many of us long of the age of old, when brother dark­ness was still a councilor.

WHY MAN! DO YOU THINK HIS MEMORY CONTINUES TO LIVE?

As for set­ting good exam­ples, do not pre­sume to lec­ture us on how to set a good exam­ple to our own kind. Let me just say this, words do not maketh a man. Brother dark­ness knew some­thing all of you in Lib­er­a­tion Square did not know, you can never talk your­self into the hearts and minds of oth­ers, all of you can is to sim­ply behave your­self into this secret place. He knew this that is why when all you coun­cilors do is to fight and insist for respect, that is all you are really doing is fight and insist and fight and insist you will till the entire uni­verse freezes over, while dark­ness is already there.

Coun­cilor allow me to give you a word of warn­ing, when wolfs howl even the tiger seethes their claws, there is room for you here, but bear in mind, we have no time for your polit­i­cal pro­pa­ganda or dou­ble speak Lib­er­a­tion Square high and mighty clap trap.

We just don’t and by the way, as brother dark­ness always said, “I do not fear………” I am Min­is­ter Belflair, head of the COCDBH

Good sir need I remind only since you have a spe­cial fond­ness for the Omer­tiane code, there is also the pro­vi­sion which allows one brother to chal­lenge another to a duel, should there be cause to do so under the Prae­to­rian order. Be very care­ful here, you have been forwarned!

You want a duel Belflair. You want a duel we can have one. I stand by what I say.

btw ihtrdb care to share why esteemed brother dark­ness is known as moas aka man of all sea­sons. I read the boa and found this was only men­tioned after the age of rea­son, it only said,

“he was the sea­sons to him as the man who told tales to the girl who had losted her doll in the park.…though he loved him with all his might, he stood always in the shad­ows always watch­ing afar.…..a knight tem­plar who always stood to serve.….…..then the man who had been the sea­sons to this youth had fin­ished what he swore would be done…his brother had become the order of the flower of dreams.……long live the brotherhood!

I dont under­stand this part. You seem like a schol­arly type per­haps you can shed some light into his past.

As for me, I think bro dark­ness exist.

Long live the brotherhood!

I dont nor­mally post, but I feel, I must. If both of you want to duel by all means do so.

The Omer­taen code which reg­u­lates the con­duct of all broth­ers does allow for duelling, but pls bear in mind the van­quish is will be denied, “water, fire and shel­ter 500 light years from LS”.

Please broth­ers we are known and respected for our rea­son­able­ness, let us not degen­er­ate like the mind­less idiots in the real world.

We are a fra­ter­nity gov­erned by laws, so just kiss and make up.

Brother steam­boy has brought forth some inter­est­ing view­points. I for one would like to par­tic­i­pate in this schol­arly dis­course with­out the dis­trac­tion of hav­ing to con­tent with other distractions.

I appeal to both of you, lower your swords, it prof­its us none to be like those of the world.

We are after all sup­posed to be higher beings.